Shang-Chi appeared in his solo movie in September 2021. Here's a list of things we've gotten/would have gotten before we see the character again.

I don't much care for the Shang Chi movie. I thought it was okay. But I just find these facts funny. Lol if not for an Avengers movie we might have gotten Beyond the Spider-Verse before seeing that character again.

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nazia9872025-11-22 17:14

As much as I loved Phase 4, there was such a lack of overall direction. And I know that was also present with the earlier phases too, but this is 11 years in.

stf292025-11-22 18:18

Exactly. I got so sick of people saying “but phase 1 and 2 were messy, so it’s ok that this one is! Everything will work itself out!”

From the start of the multiverse saga with how they threw so so so many characters at the wall with movies not even trying to tie themselves together, they were just trying to find lightning in a bottle and bank on that carrying the saga. This entire saga has been so incoherent and it’s so upsetting because the pieces for a story that *easily* rivals the previous saga are there! But they just never took advantage of that. More than half the characters are stuck on their first appearance or have just had a cameo, we’ve lost the initial plot threads and are rushing into doom (partly out of marvel’s control, but I digress), and are getting our first team up film at the tail end of the entire saga

Slowandserious2025-11-22 18:56

Phase 1-2 are not even that messy in terms of characters appearance.

You see Iron Man in 2008, Iron Man 2 in 2010, and in the Avangers 2012

4 years and you see Tony in three movies. And it felt natural. Very clean

labbla2025-11-22 20:07

Yes you also have Thor and Captain America directly connecting to Avengers. It really wasn't messy at all.

Slowandserious2025-11-22 20:12

Yep2.

Captain America TFA 2011 introduced teseract. And 2012 you see him and teseract again in the Avengers.

Thor 2011 introduced Loki. And in 2012 he is the main villain in the Avengers.

All felt natural

ActionFilmsFan19952025-11-23 00:59

Heck even Hulk ties in well. Tony cameos at the end of it to discuss The Avengers, then he has a pretty good subplot building off it in that movie.

Part of the reason Phase 1 works so well is there’s really only like 8 characters you need to develop across the 6 movies (The 6 Avengers, Fury, and Coulson). Phase 4 introduced a ton of characters and proceeded to not develop most of them because they needed a project introducing yet another character.

stf292025-11-22 23:56

I apologize, my second paragraph was talking about the multiverse saga (just made a calrifying edit). I agree that the infinity saga always had some form of cohesion

Frosty_Appointment372025-11-25 15:58

its all thanks to COVID & Disney forcing MCU to do "Quantity over Quality"

Imagine getting 2 Avengers films in 7 months in 2025, like By today

The Multiverse Saga would have BEEN OVER

[https://youtu.be/CWt1TWLoF2E?si=uBCH\_oY0SFrQhwBL](https://youtu.be/CWt1TWLoF2E?si=uBCH_oY0SFrQhwBL)

[https://youtube.com/shorts/O9m\_kullISA?si=ete99EZ6txqpmkdk](https://youtube.com/shorts/O9m_kullISA?si=ete99EZ6txqpmkdk)

If they were truly wanting Kang to be main Big Bad from Phase 4 start,
then they should have done this :

Avengers 5: Kang Dynasty (2030)
Avengers 6: Kang Dynasty Part II (2031)

with Loki directors on both,

I AM SO GLAD THE OVERHAUL HAPPENED BECAUSE

FOGGY WAS GONNA DIE OFFSCREEN IN PRE-OVERHAUL BORN AGAIN, LIKE WTF?

Frosty_Appointment372025-11-25 16:02

Kang was in only 1984 Secret Wars but NEVER AS MAIN VILLAIN

1984 one's Main Villain was The Beyonder & Dr Doom (when he had The Beyonder's powers)

He is not even a part of 2015 Secret Wars.
its main foes are Incursion & God Emperor Doom

KANG SHOULD NOT BE SECRET WARS FILM MAIN VILLAIN

example: IW + Endgame adapt Infinity Gauntlet storyline where Thanos was MAIN VILLAIN

![gif](giphy|ccYQpcAaXHeGcIkSsO)

no1kn0wsm32025-11-23 12:58

Simu Liu & other Asian Americans are not actor-attractive for East Asian markets.

They may work as diversityy equity and inclusion in Western nations but not worth a 2nd look in places lie CN, KR, JP, SG, HK, TW, etc.

eBICgamer20102025-11-22 17:16

And then you go through Marvel's TV side and the few TV characters we have consistently seen throughout the Multiverse Saga:

* The Watcher
* Captain Carter (lol)
* Daredevil
* Kingpin
* something X-Men '97 main cast (Cyclops, Wolverine, Beast, Phoenix, Storm, Morph, Rogue, Magneto)
* something YFNSM main cast (Peter, Nico, Harry, Norman, Lonnie and soon to be Gwen)

We got Marvel Studios doing Spider-Gwen before Kate Beeshup returns again, lmao even.

TorontoDavid2025-11-22 17:49

Why the lol after Captain Carter?

Juice12112025-11-22 17:51

It's not lol. Its her body being split by her shield.

Crater_Raider2025-11-22 17:16

John Wick dies?

Jaffacakelover2025-11-22 18:48

Yeah spoilers for a quite recent movie there, upfront.

>!Some say there's tiny hints he survived the final duel, but I didn't see them.!<

SpaceCaboose2025-11-22 22:23

It mostly felt like he did die, but there was enough ambiguity there to plausibly bring him back. Either way, it’s a movie, so whatever.

Slowandserious2025-11-22 18:56

Or did heeee?

FuegoInfinito2025-11-22 20:37

Lmao yeah that was not on my bingo card when I scrolled through this post.

Vchipp2_02025-11-22 17:17

Your assuming that GTA isn't gonna get delayed again.

QuickBE992025-11-22 17:21

I wonder if DDC will direct a full Spider-Man trilogy (assuming we get one) on top of Shang-Chi. Or a different director for SM5, SM6.

Wooden_Passage_26122025-11-22 17:22

Man! The 2020s has been tough for movies

Stillwindows952025-11-22 17:29

Stranger things season 4 and 5

Rings of power seasons 1, 2 and probably 3.

Probably the new lord of the rings adjacent movie too.

The boys seasons 3, 4 and probably 5 as well as 2 seasons of Gen V.

Yeah I miss Shang Chi too :(

HumanOverseer2025-11-22 17:29

We're getting GTA VI before Shang Chi 2 🥀

skateboardude7612025-11-22 17:31

I thought Shang-chi was decent but I’m not clamoring for another one

El_Cance_R2025-11-22 17:34

Yeah, but there was also a global pandemic, the longest strike of writers and actors of all time, and the subsequent delay of several movies and change of the entire movie industry.

I think we can excuse not having a Shang-Chi sequel yet

Flight_3162025-11-22 18:13

I'm not even specifying sequel. He's had no other appearance or mention in a live-action project whatsoever.

ChronicChoof2025-11-22 19:03

Don't forget Chapek he did more damage to the MCU than the strikes and COVID combined.

Ragnarok_6192025-11-23 02:05

How long we gonna dish in the excuses

eric1994792025-11-23 14:26

Those excuses would make sense if no other movie was made since the first Shang-Chi came out, lol

Dragon_yum2025-11-22 17:41

I don’t k is why but every time I’m shocked again by how badly Marvel managed phases 4 and 5 from the height of phase3.

TorontoDavid2025-11-22 17:48

Don’t forget Marvel Zombies.

TheHark902025-11-22 17:53

Don’t hold your breath with gta6 being released before

Jay126782025-11-22 17:57

We saw him in multiple episodes of What If? and Marvel Zombies. The character didn't just disappear completely.

Flight_3162025-11-22 18:10

Yeah, that's why I specified live-action.

That-Rhino-Guy2025-11-22 18:15

Is it definitely disappointing Shang Shang ain’t received a sequel yet, but at the same time I’d rather they take their time with it given the issues Phase 4-5 had

Bulky-Abrocoma-22582025-11-22 18:19

We also got Scream 5, 6 & 7 in the time, two seasons of Wednesday & The final two seasons of Stranger Things

human67422025-11-22 18:20

lol I never got into John Wick for some reason so this post is how I found out he died

chibixleon2025-11-22 18:20

the movie too well made for its own good. marvel head honchos grabbed the director and put him on a bunch of random projects and the sequel was never made. Incredibly sad.

BroeknRecrds2025-11-22 18:32

Tbf we DID get Shang-Chi in both What If S3 and Marvel Zombies, so he wasn't COMPLETELY absent

Resolve-Opening2025-11-22 18:47

The Rock’s A24 Oscar bait was so forgettable

Suede_Psycho2025-11-22 18:53

We have also gotten two more sonic sequels too which i find strange

SabraShifter2025-11-22 18:53

Woah woah woah. Let's not go crazy with including GTA 6 here, you never actually know when that's going to come out

PocketBlackHole2025-11-22 18:57

GTA6 was brutal.

Afwife19922025-11-22 19:17

This is one of my biggest complaints along with no making Sam more relevant as CA and a leader. He was a brand new character who was very well received. We didn’t need Thor 4 or CA 4 (Sam had a whole series). They should’ve done SC 2 in the lead up to Doomsday (or Kang empire). Have Sam appear in the sequel to recruit him or something thus showing Sam being a leader and tying SC into the group. Drop him into stingers or cameos.which they should’ve been doing with Sam too to actually make him believable as the leader of a group of superheroes and not just Torres.

Steve was shown every year from First Avenger until Endgame. Either a lead (2011, 2014, 2016), in an avengers movie (2012, 2015, 2018, 2019) or in a cameo (2013, 2017). Tony was in most years (2008-2019 except for 2009, 2011, 2014.) They’ve even been referenced in a number of projects (about half or more) since then.

Strange had a gap between movies but we at least saw him in cameos like Ragnarok and in Infinity War and Endgame. Same with tchalla. (Since there would’ve been a BP2 with him in 2021 had Chadwick not passed.)

There’s area lack of focus on having 1-2 main characters who are the center of the narrative and tie it together. They should’ve picked familiar characters like Sam, Carol, Strange and Peter as pivot points and tied new characters like SC to them. They were good with using Bruce (SC, She Hulk), Wong, Nick and Rhodey as bridges but they needed to tie their leads to the newer ones.

agreed2disagreee2025-11-22 19:29

I wouldn’t be pissed about Shang chi not getting a sequel if he at least showed up in some other projects.

Billybob352025-11-22 19:38

As someone who loved the Shang Chi movie, I'm beyond pissed we haven't gotten a sequel yet.

No-Jello-41542025-11-22 19:56

We literally get GTA VI before Shang-Chi returning

SapiR20002025-11-22 20:37

Is he not going to be in the Avengers?

Fit_Scientist_48102025-11-22 20:41

2 avatar movies is probably the most insane one out of these imo

Dismal_View_51212025-11-22 21:58

The phases since Endgame have been kind of a hot mess. It's shocking to me that they benched Shang-Chi for so long.

TheRealGamerK2025-11-22 22:22

You can also possibly put Half Life 3, if rumors are true.

Ganjookie2025-11-22 22:25

wow..anyways back to something differentt

Lucky-Paperclip-12025-11-22 22:31

It'd be peak if HL3 comes out.

BatGasmBegins2025-11-22 23:37

Dam I was just thinking about finally watching John Wick for the first time 😢 I knew nothing about it besides the boogie man scene. Kinda shouldn't put spoilers like that without a warning dude.

mitvh23112025-11-22 23:50

I would rather more eternals then shang chi tbh

The_Reddit_Guy_22025-11-22 23:52

Reminds me of the Spaceballs 2 reveal from a while back

Toshimoko292025-11-23 00:37

Really underselling Red One, my family has a lot of fun with it.

Vegetable-Dog52812025-11-23 01:25

Shang Chi was awful. they had to steal an Ironman villain for his movie, what do you expect them to do for the sequel?

Variation_Afraid2025-11-23 16:04

The main villain was Wenwu “ his father” and the flying dragon you dumbass, and also just an fyi the ten rings and the mandarin are shared by both iron man and Shang chi, as villains in the comics

Citizen_KK2025-11-23 02:11

Aww, I liked Red One.

Embarrassed-Back18942025-11-23 02:21

Did you have to fucking spoil John Wick 4? I haven’t had the chance to see it yet and ive loved the series. God damn.

Creative-Arachnid-582025-11-24 19:02

Frrr there was literally no need bruh T-T

CaptHayfever2025-11-23 02:37

Thanks for spoiling John Wick 4, jerk.

TheTangerineLounge2025-11-23 16:49

Chapter 5 is being developed.

D0CTOR_Wh0m2025-11-23 02:52

Try talking to fans about A Song of Ice and Fire about what comes out between entries in the books…

pcpassos2025-11-23 02:53

The GTA one 🥲

SamMan482025-11-23 03:56

Red One is good, I feel like it could go down as one of those holiday movies that flopped when it came out but becomes more popular over time. I approve of the overall sentiment of this post though.

bangarang902102025-11-23 04:36

Shang Chi deserves better.

Justice for Shang!

flashcannonize72025-11-23 04:44

even Trevor Slattery will make an appearance again before him (the live action at least considering Simu Liu voiced Shang-Chi in Marvel Zombies) and ugh, don't even tell me about blade

FireZord252025-11-23 05:40

The last one though 🤞 🤞 🤞 🤞 🤞 🤞 🤞

confetti_shrapnel2025-11-23 14:28

Just checking in because I loved the Shang-Chi movie and was dying for a sequel. Best fight scenes in all of MCU. And judging by these comments I didn't realize I was alone on that.

Aromatic-Cupcake48022025-11-23 17:52

Poor Shaun and Katy have been stuck in a karaoke booth for almost 5 years

TrunksDash2025-11-23 19:00

WARNING: one of the pictures in in the post contains major spoilers to an unrelated, recent movie.

OP you might want to edit the spoiler in the 4th picture. The movie us quite recent still.

crapoo162025-11-24 04:59

I can’t believe no way home was 4 years ago lol

Lonely-Blacksmith-122025-11-24 21:57

Shang Chi was mid as fuck. Come at me lmao.

Flight_3162025-11-25 01:20

Loool I don't disagree!

Frosty_Appointment372025-11-25 15:58

Daniel Destin Crettin : After Brand New Day

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clashrendar2025-11-27 18:08

COVID and a regime change at Disney happened, as well as a significant box office dip. All of that slowed things down quite a bit.

Teex222025-11-29 14:22

Hey, whoa whoa whoa buddy, I hate Dwayne as much as the next guy but Red One was a banger

JK Simmons as Santa is something I never knew I needed in life but it was so magical